That’s it. Detective: Then, then what happened after that? Detective: So, you don’t have pictures of you in her underwear? If I saw that in you, I wouldn’t even be back in here talking to you, quite frankly, but maybe I’m wrong. Russell Williams: …it’s, it’s slightly different schedule she has but that’s probably how I knew. Okay, as soon as the expert in footwear impressions, the expert in tire impressions calls me “yes, yes I examined those and they’re…”, Detective: It’s all over because as soon as that happens, where’s your credibility? Detective: Alright, um, so you go in and how did you get into her house? Detective: Neither am I, okay. Detective: Okay, so correct me if I’m wrong, did you say you would’ve gotten there at 11 or around 11? Detective: Electronic devices, uh, looking through houses for things that are in handwriting, written notes, diaries, things like that. Russell Williams: Uh, not at that point but later on. Detective: Can you think of any reason, um, why we would find you DNA in any of those residences? Okay? Detective: Okay, so you get home about four thirty, five, you said. Detective: Alright, um, do you remember how, uh, her clothing was removed? What do you do? Bernardo being one of them. No. Detective: So that’s certainly one of the things that went into our decision to, to give you a call at home today and see if we could deal with this today. Detective: Um, so, that particular week, uh, do you have any recollection, well, for instance, when you got the email, uh…. This one print…. Detective: Um, we’re going to do a pretty thorough interview today. So when she spotted me, I, uh, had the same flashlight. Detective: Okay. He was formally charged with two counts of first degree murder, sexual assault, two counts of forcible confinement, and 84 counts of breaking and … I know it’ll be, uh, easily spotted. Clothed initially and then unclothed. Russell Williams: I hadn’t even heard that name so, no, I don’t, I don’t, actually know who that was. There’s a little sunroom. Detective: Okay, that happened Tuesday night, just this past Tuesday, obviously. Russell Williams: [sigh] Mm… I don’t remember anything peculiar so I would say, uh, I don’t know. Detective: Okay, so you leave her house three-ish. Russell Williams: About eleven or so, probably ten thirty, eleven. Detective: And we can put somebody paying for a meal at, at a location. Detective: Side basement window. Russell Williams: Um, mm, not sure. Russell Williams: Well, all kinds of things. Russell Williams: Well, there’s quite a bit of blood I hadn’t expected. So…, Detective: Um, another thing I want to make sure you understand is that, uh, you know you mentioned a second ago about uh, Miss Comeau, um, being one of your, uh, work associates. Are they black? Couple of, uh, couple of meetings. We struggled then I just lay on her. Russell Williams: Oh well, no more than 4 anyway. She was sleeping in her, um, not in her bedroom but her, you know, in front of the TV, very much the same story. Detective: Um, so essentially, uh, then the connection with Miss Comeau, um…. Russell Williams: …and, and, uh, within a couple of days, probably the same night, so I spoke with a couple back then. Um, we, we talked recently about, you know, the whole idea of any unusual sex acts of your history. Russell Williams: [deeply inhales] I, uh, I took Jessica’s body to that spot. I was sent an email, um [sighs]. BELOW is the police transcript of an interview with Gene Morrison. Uh, these aren’t decisions that we can say yes or no to. Detective: Um, there have been four occurrences, uh, like I said, that we’re looking into. Russell Williams: You need a, a detailed map of that area and I’ll show you where she is…, Detective: Alright, um, is this something where, is she, is she buried or is she…. And I noticed she wasn’t, uh, there Thursday so I got in the house to look around. Detective: Why do you think she passed out? Russell Williams: Well, she lives 3 doors down and uh, didn’t know her but I knew she is pretty alone. And um, strangled her later in the morning. This is the practical steps…. Detective: Okay, probably similar to what you may be considered to be at the base. Detective: Is she bur.., is she covered with anything? Russell Williams: Put on a, a number of, you know, pairs of panties, bras, that she had that I’d taken. I had Monday off and then I was visiting, uh, one of the units in Ottawa on Tuesday so I didn’t head back to Tweed until Tuesday night. Detective: What did you use to cut her top? Where did the duct tape come from? If you were ever in Laurie’s residence…. Detective: Okay and where are those 2 pieces now, the pieces that you wore on the head? Detective: Okay, and what did you do with it afterwards? In this interview, Williams admits to the murder of two women and the sexual assaults of two others. That’s it. I can’t recall exactly but uh, yeah, nothing. Russell Williams: Went to work, normal time. Russell Williams: Same rope. But I do want to talk to you again. Russell Williams: Looking around, looking around to see who lived in the house, it was just her. Um, I think that’s what we’re going, we’re going to ask you to do. Detective: Um, is there any reason you want to call a lawyer now? Detective: Alright. Russell Williams: Just ‘cause I’d seen her and she was cute. She thought we were leaving. Detective: Is Jessica somewhere we can find her easily? Detective: Okay. Have you received any recognisable qualifications? Detective: What makes you think that? Detective: Okay, um, the reason for that is because, uh, the last thing we want is to be calling people back again and again and again, okay? Let’s talk about uh, the, oh, seeing how’s, we’re going backwards in time here, why don’t we talk about the second incident in Tweed. Took some pictures and left. Put a cover over her and went to sleep, probably for an hour or so. Russell Williams: Yeah, no. Detective: Okay, and did you leave immediately, or did you stay there for a while…. Was probably in the house about two, two and a half hours. Detective: Okay so what happened that night? Morrison: Well, that's the head place in California. I studied in Massachusetts. Finished, I don’t know, mid afternoon or so. Do we talk? Detective: There wasn’t like a weekly meeting or anything like that? I, I’d, I, again this is a credibility issue. It was a very foggy morning. Detective: …and essentially with footwear impressions, uh, you’re in a situation where you’re, you’re pretty much in the area of, uh, fingerprints. Detective: Um, little bit gross to think about but essentially, uh, you know as we talk, um, we, you know, a little bit of aspirate comes out of our mouths…. Numbers, I have to know the numbers. Russell Williams: [sighs] well, I, I snuck up to the side of her bed, expecting to uh, try to knock her out. This node provides an example interview transcript. Just a grey something or other cover. I was meeting with, uh, you know, 15 people or so that day so…. This is a major investigation. Russell Williams: Can’t remember if it was me or my wife that paid but one of us. Russell Williams: Sometime before midnight and I can’t quite remember but uh, I think I went in the office first, did some work, so I think I got home to Ottawa, uh, just before midnight. Russell Williams: Then I subdued her, as I described. Whether you want to be a police officer in a small town or a big city, there’s no avoiding the police oral board interview. Detective: Okay, where’s that knife, which knife did…. Russell Williams: Well, my wife and I did some stuff. Russell Williams: I don’t know the model. So, what I am doing, Russ, I put my best foot forward here for you, bud, I really have. **The following interrogation transcript includes details from the sexual assaults that had been edited out of the official Ontario Provincial Police transcript.**. You know, in a restaurant that we would expect to be able to frequent, uh, once the house was finished. Detective: Okay, and uh, what are you wearing? Detective: I don’t recall but it was something along the lines of, uh, telling the people on the base that they didn’t, uh, they weren’t required legally to speak with the police and they should seek legal counsel before the decide to speak but…. I\'ve also included a transcript template for Microsoft Word that you can download and use for your own interview transcripts. Detective: Okay, do you remember doing anything with her in the basement, uh, where you may have used some clothing or something to, uh, secure her? Detective: Okay, um, so when that happened was she, did she have clothes on or was she naked? What are you going to do? Russell Williams: They’re, they’re all right next to each other so a quick look through the boxes there, you’ll find them. Russell Williams: Some, uh, rope that I brought. Barcelona presidential candidate Joan Laporta gives verdict on Lionel Messi future amid Man City interest. Detective: Did you go by your house in Tweed or anything or do you just go straight home? Morrison: I don't have a recognisable degree by this country. It’s right beside the bed. I said I’m not going to kill you. 60 pieces of their’s. Didn’t, um, didn’t hit her. I mean, obviously there’s a huge search still under way and it will continue, it will continue until her body’s found. 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